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| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Forgotten Atrocities Bal K. Gupta, 2012 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Interreligious Dialogue and the Partition of India Mario I. Aguilar, 2018-06-21 In a time of schism, violence and forced migration, how can God be understood? With his latest book, Catholic Benedictine hermit Mario Aguilar explores the religious identities of Hindus and Muslims in the aftermath of the 1947 partition of India. Looking at the experiences of the victims who were silenced, he reveals how out of this traumatic period has emerged a peaceful dialogue between faiths, held together by shared humanity and prayerfulness. Founded on a fascination with what unites rather than divides religions, Aguilar offers a theological reading of a major event in twentieth century history that is both creative and constructive. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Remnants of Partition Aanchal Malhotra, 2021 A haunting evocation of the pain and long aftermath of Partition, preserved in personal possessions carried over the border and the memories of their owners. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Pakistan's Wars Tariq Rahman, 2022-06-09 This book studies the wars Pakistan has fought over the years with India as well as other non-state actors. Focusing on the first Kashmir war (1947–48), the wars of 1965 and 1971, and the 1999 Kargil war, it analyses the elite decision-making, which leads to these conflicts and tries to understand how Pakistan got involved in the first place. The author applies the ‘gambling model’ to provide insights into the dysfunctional world view, risk-taking behaviour, and other behavioural patterns of the decision makers, which precipitate these wars and highlight their effects on India–Pakistan relations for the future. The book also brings to the fore the experience of widows, children, common soldiers, displaced civilians, and villagers living near borders, in the form of interviews, to understand the subaltern perspective. A nuanced and accessible military history of Pakistan, this book will be indispensable to scholars and researchers of military history, defence and strategic studies, international relations, political studies, war and conflict studies, and South Asian studies. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Society and Politics of Jammu and Kashmir Serena Hussain, 2020-11-27 Kashmir is one of the longest-standing conflicts yet to be resolved by the international community. In 2000, Bill Clinton declared it the most dangerous place in the world and since then the situation continues to escalate. Positioned between India, Pakistan and China – three nuclear powers – Kashmir is the most militarized zone on the planet. Against this backdrop, the urgency to understand what Jammu and Kashmir means to those who actually belong to its territory has increased. This book not only helps readers navigate subtleties in a complex part of the world but is the first of its kind – written for a global audience from local perspectives, which to date have been sorely lacking. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: The Routledge Handbook of Religion, Mass Atrocity, and Genocide Sara E. Brown, Stephen D. Smith, 2021-11-22 The Routledge Handbook of Religion, Mass Atrocity, and Genocide explores the many and sometimes complicated ways in which religion, faith, doctrine, and practice intersect in societies where mass atrocity and genocide occur. This volume is intended as an entry point to questions about mass atrocity and genocide that are asked by and of people of faith and is an outstanding reference source to the key topics, historical events, and heated debates in this subject area. The 39 contributions to the handbook, by a team of international contributors, span five continents and cover four millennia. Each explores the intersection of religion, faith, and mainly state-sponsored mass atrocity and genocide, and draws from a variety of disciplines. This volume is divided into six core sections: Genocide in Antiquity and Holy Wars The Genocide of Indigenous Peoples Religion and the State The Role of Religion during Genocide Post Genocide Considerations Memory Culture Within these sections central issues, historical events, debates, and problems are examined, including the Crusades; Jihad and ISIS, colonialism, the Holocaust, desecration of ritual objects, politics of religion, Shinto nationalism, attacks on Rohingya Muslims; the Genocide against the Tutsi in Rwanda, responses to genocide; gender-based atrocities, ritualcide in Cambodia, burial sites and mass graves, transitional justice, forgiveness, documenting genocide, survivor memory narratives, post-conflict healing and memorialization. The Routledge Handbook of Religion and Genocide is essential reading for students and researchers with an interest in religion and genocide, religion and violence, and religion and politics. It will be of great interest to students of theology, philosophy, genocide studies, narrative studies, history, and international relations and those in related fields, such as cultural studies, area studies, sociology, and anthropology. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: The Human Rights Crisis in Kashmir , 1993 Historical background 3. The scope of the conflict and the |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Equity, Social Determinants and Public Health Programmes World Health Organization, 2010 1. Introduction and methods of work.-- 2. Alcohol: equity and social determinants.-- 3. Cardiovascular disease: equity and social determinants.-- 4. Health and nutrition of children: equity and social determinants.-- 5. Diabetes: equity and social determinants.-- 6. Food safety: equity and social determinants.-- 7. Mental disorders: equity and social determinants.-- 8. Neglected tropical diseases: equity and social determinants.-- 9. Oral health: equity and social determinants.-- 10. Unintended pregnancy and pregnancy outcome: equity and social determinants.-- 11. Tobacco use: equity and social determinants.-- 12. Tuberculosis: the role of risk factors and social determinants.-- 13. Violence and unintentional injury: equity and social determinants.-- 14. Synergy for equity. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Alcohol and Injuries World Health Organization, 2009 Alcohol-attributable injuries are of a growing concern to the public health community, with alcohol-related injuries such as road traffic accidents, burns, poisonings, falls and drownings making up more than a third of the disease burden attributable to alcohol consumption. This publication synthesizes results of a number of hospital emergency department studies conducted in different cultural and health care settings, including the WHO Collaborative Study on Alcohol and Injuries. It provides an introduction to the epidemiology of alcohol-related injuries and refers to methodological issues of emergency department studies. It addresses public policy implications and equips the reader with practical information on interventions that can be implemented in emergency departments, such as screening and brief interventions for hazardous and harmful drinking. This book has been compiled by an international group of editors with extensive experience in the area of alcohol and injuries. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: The Forgotten Army Peter Ward Fay, 1994 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: A Guide to Assessing Needs Ryan Watkins, Maurya West Meiers, Yusra Visser, 2012-01-06 Making informed decisions is the essential beginning to any successful development project. Before the project even begins, you can use needs assessment approaches to guide your decisions. This book is filled with practical strategies that can help you define the desired results and select the most appropriate activities for achieving them. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Blood Island Deep Halder, 2019-05-25 Deep Halder's book, Blood Island: An Oral History of the Marichjhapi Massacre, is a reminder of the tragedy which has practically disappeared from public memory. The massacre that took place in 1979 is an instance of human rights violations. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: World Development Report 2011 World Bank, 2011-05-01 The 2011 WDR on Conflict, Security and Development underlines the devastating impact of persistent conflict on a country or region's development prospects - noting that the 1.5 billion people living in conflict-affected areas are twice as likely to be in poverty. Its goal is to contribute concrete, practical suggestions on conflict and fragility. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: A Fine Balance Rohinton Mistry, 2010-10-29 A Fine Balance, Rohinton Mistry’s stunning internationally acclaimed bestseller, is set in mid-1970s India. It tells the story of four unlikely people whose lives come together during a time of political turmoil soon after the government declares a “State of Internal Emergency.” Through days of bleakness and hope, their circumstances – and their fates – become inextricably linked in ways no one could have foreseen. Mistry’s prose is alive with enduring images and a cast of unforgettable characters. Written with compassion, humour, and insight, A Fine Balance is a vivid, richly textured, and powerful novel written by one of the most gifted writers of our time. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Business Education Index , 1972 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Hanged for Their Patriotism R. K. Tandon, 2009 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Gender and Forests Carol J. Pierce Colfer, Bimbika Sijapati Basnett, Marlène Elias, 2016-04-14 This enlightening book brings together the work of gender and forestry specialists from various backgrounds and fields of research and action to analyse global gender conditions as related to forests. Using a variety of methods and approaches, they build on a spectrum of theoretical perspectives to bring depth and breadth to the relevant issues and address timely and under-studied themes. Focusing particularly on tropical forests, the book presents both local case studies and global comparative studies from Africa, Asia, and Latin America, as well as the US and Europe. The studies range from personal histories of elderly American women’s attitudes toward conservation, to a combined qualitative / quantitative international comparative study on REDD+, to a longitudinal examination of oil palm and gender roles over time in Kalimantan. Issues are examined across scales, from the household to the nation state and the global arena; and reach back to the past to inform present and future considerations. The collection will be of relevance to academics, researchers, policy makers and advocates with different levels of familiarity with gender issues in the field of forestry. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Engaging Contradictions Charles R. Hale, 2008-05-07 Scholars in many fields increasingly find themselves caught between the academy, with its demands for rigor and objectivity, and direct engagement in social activism. Some advocate on behalf of the communities they study; others incorporate the knowledge and leadership of their informants directly into the process of knowledge production. What ethical, political, and practical tensions arise in the course of such work? In this wide-ranging and multidisciplinary volume, leading scholar-activists map the terrain on which political engagement and academic rigor meet. Contributors: Ruth Wilson Gilmore, Edmund T. Gordon, Davydd Greenwood, Joy James, Peter Nien-chu Kiang, George Lipsitz, Samuel Martínez, Jennifer Bickham Mendez, Dani Nabudere, Jessica Gordon Nembhard, Jemima Pierre, Laura Pulido, Shannon Speed, Shirley Suet-ling Tang, João Vargas |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Trade and Environment Adil Najam, Ricardo Meléndez-Ortiz, Mark Halle, 2007 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Doing Human Service Ethnography Jacobsson, Katarina, Gubrium, Jaber, 2021-07-22 This book shows researchers how ethnography can be carried out within human service settings, providing an invaluable guide on how to apply ethnographic creativeness and offering a more humanistic and context-sensitive approach to generating valid knowledge about today’s service work. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Dead Silence Human Rights Watch/Asia, 1994 V. CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Broken People Smita Narula, Human Rights Watch (Organization), 1999 Women and the Law. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Hindutva Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, 1942 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Index India , 1986 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: The Persistence of Caste Anand Teltumbde, 2010-10-01 While the caste system has been formally abolished under the Indian Constitution, according to official statistics, every eighteen minutes a crime is committed in India on a dalit-untouchable. The Persistence of Caste uses the shocking case of Khairlanji, the brutal murder of four members of a dalit family in 2006, to explode the myth that caste no longer matters. In this exposé, Anand Teltumbde locates the crime within the political economy of post-Independence India and across the global Indian diaspora. This book demonstrates how caste has shown amazing resilience - surviving feudalism, capitalist industrialization and a republican constitution - to still be alive and well today, despite all denial, under neoliberal globalization. This insightful new analysis not only provides a fascinating introduction to the issue of caste in a globalized world, but also sharpens our understanding of caste dynamics as they really exist. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Violence and Its Causes Jean Marie Domenach, Unesco, 1981 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Essential Concepts of Global Environmental Governance Jean-Frederic Morin, Amandine Orsini, 2014-07-11 Aligning global governance to the challenges of sustainability is one of the most urgent environmental issues to be addressed. This book is a timely and up-to-date compilation of the main pieces of the global environmental governance puzzle. The book is comprised of 101 entries, each defining a central concept in global environmental governance, presenting its historical evolution, introducing related debates and including key bibliographical references and further reading. The entries combine analytical rigour with empirical description. The book: offers cutting edge analysis of the state of global environmental governance, raises an up-to-date debate on global governance for sustainable development, gives an in-depth exploration of current international architecture of global environmental governance, examines the interaction between environmental politics and other fields of governance such as trade, development and security, elaborates a critical review of the recent literature in global environmental governance. This unique work synthesizes writing from an internationally diverse range of well-known experts in the field of global environmental governance. Innovative thinking and high-profile expertise come together to create a volume that is accessible to students, scholars and practitioners alike. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Elusive Peace Dipankar Gupta, University of Birmingham. International Development Department, Religions and Development Research Programme, 2010 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Gender and the Violence(s) of War and Armed Conflict Stacy Banwell, 2020-10-16 The ebook edition of this title is Open Access, thanks to Knowledge Unlatched funding, and freely available to read online.Drawing on historical and contemporary case studies, this book delves into visual and text-based materials to unpack gender-based violence(s) perpetrated and experienced by both sexes within and beyond the conflict zone. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Global History Samir Amin, 2010-11-25 This short book includes studies of capitalism in the ancient world system, central Asia's place in it, the challenge of globalisation, Europe and China's two roads to development, and Russia in the global system. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Isaac Asimov's Book of Science and Nature Quotations Isaac Asimov, Jason Shulman, 1988 Gathers quotations about agriculture, anthropology, astronomy, the atom, energy, engineering, genetics, medicine, physics, science and society, and research |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Unearthing Gender Smita Tewari Jassal, 2012-03-28 This book analyzes the folk songs from the Bhojpuri-speaking regions of North India to explore how ideas of gender, caste, and class are socially constructed, transmitted, questioned, and reaffirmed through their performance. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Asking the Earth Winin Pereira, Jeremy Seabrook, 2013-11-05 The need to produce food without the destructive chemical horrors of much modern farming, for an intelligent use of dwindling natural resources and for humane forms of production is universal, the practice is limited. This book is an account of one, large, instance of success in practice. Twenty-five years ago, Winin Pereira, a nuclear physicist abandoned academia to start a co-operative farm at Alonde in a tribal area north of Bombay. The group experienced, and finally discarded, all the false hopes and promises of Western originated forms of development: ploughs that ploughed too deep, irrigation systems that lowered water tables, fertilizers and pesticides which managed the earth and became so expensive that poorer farmers were dispossessed. Instead they learnt from the adivasai, or tribal people, who have nurtured or been nurtured by foresets for millennia, ways of applying popular knowledge to contemporary problems. This book is a combination of Pereira's record of achievement of sustainable livelihoods and an account of the farm and its effect on the India around it by a leading British journalist. Originally published in 1991 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Women who Dared Valjean McLenighan, 1979 The story of 6 American women (e.g., Margaret Bourke-White and Diana Nyad) who have accomplished much in different fields. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: England's Debt to India: A Historical Narrative of Britain's Fiscal Policy in India Lajpat Rai, 2019-02-22 This work has been selected by scholars as being culturally important, and is part of the knowledge base of civilization as we know it. This work was reproduced from the original artifact, and remains as true to the original work as possible. Therefore, you will see the original copyright references, library stamps (as most of these works have been housed in our most important libraries around the world), and other notations in the work. This work is in the public domain in the United States of America, and possibly other nations. Within the United States, you may freely copy and distribute this work, as no entity (individual or corporate) has a copyright on the body of the work. As a reproduction of a historical artifact, this work may contain missing or blurred pages, poor pictures, errant marks, etc. Scholars believe, and we concur, that this work is important enough to be preserved, reproduced, and made generally available to the public. We appreciate your support of the preservation process, and thank you for being an important part of keeping this knowledge alive and relevant. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: 1946, the Great Calcutta Killings and Noakhali Genocide Dīneśacandra Siṃha, Ashok Dasgupta, 2011 |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Emerging Memory Paul Bijl, 2015 Dutch commentators repeatedly claim that their nation has forgotten its violent colonial past. In this compelling study, however, Paul Bijl demonstrates that photographs of colonial atrocities have appeared consistently in the Dutch public sphere and remain widely available in print, on television, and online. The nation, he argues, has not forgotten; rather, the Dutch have failed to absorb the meaning of these ubiquitous images and the scenes they depict. Ultimately, Bijl illuminates the shadowy zone between remembering and forgetting a zone populated by histories that do not correspond to the narratives we construct about the past. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: The Late Age of Print Ted Striphas, 2009-04-08 Ted Striphas argues that, although the production and propagation of books have undoubtedly entered a new phase, printed works are still very much a part of our everyday lives. With examples from trade journals, news media, films, advertisements, and a host of other commercial and scholarly materials, Striphas tells a story of modern publishing that proves, even in a rapidly digitizing world, books are anything but dead. From the rise of retail superstores to Oprah's phenomenal reach, Striphas tracks the methods through which the book industry has adapted (or has failed to adapt) to rapid changes in twentieth-century print culture. Barnes & Noble, Borders, and Amazon.com have established new routes of traffic in and around books, and pop sensations like Harry Potter and the Oprah Book Club have inspired the kind of brand loyalty that could only make advertisers swoon. At the same time, advances in digital technology have presented the book industry with extraordinary threats and unique opportunities. Striphas's provocative analysis offers a counternarrative to those who either triumphantly declare the end of printed books or deeply mourn their passing. With wit and brilliant insight, he isolates the invisible processes through which books have come to mediate our social interactions and influence our habits of consumption, integrating themselves into our routines and intellects like never before. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: A New Literary History of America Greil Marcus, Werner Sollors, 2012-05-07 America is a nation making itself up as it goes alongÑa story of discovery and invention unfolding in speeches and images, letters and poetry, unprecedented feats of scholarship and imagination. In these myriad, multiform, endlessly changing expressions of the American experience, the authors and editors of this volume find a new American history. In more than two hundred original essays, A New Literary History of America brings together the nationÕs many voices. From the first conception of a New World in the sixteenth century to the latest re-envisioning of that world in cartoons, television, science fiction, and hip hop, the book gives us a new, kaleidoscopic view of what ÒMade in AmericaÓ means. Literature, music, film, art, history, science, philosophy, political rhetoricÑcultural creations of every kind appear in relation to each other, and to the time and place that give them shape. The meeting of minds is extraordinary as T. J. Clark writes on Jackson Pollock, Paul Muldoon on Carl Sandburg, Camille Paglia on Tennessee Williams, Sarah Vowell on Grant WoodÕs American Gothic, Walter Mosley on hard-boiled detective fiction, Jonathan Lethem on Thomas Edison, Gerald Early on Tarzan, Bharati Mukherjee on The Scarlet Letter, Gish Jen on Catcher in the Rye, and Ishmael Reed on Huckleberry Finn. From Anne Bradstreet and John Winthrop to Philip Roth and Toni Morrison, from Alexander Graham Bell and Stephen Foster to Alcoholics Anonymous, Life, Chuck Berry, Alfred Hitchcock, and Ronald Reagan, this is America singing, celebrating itself, and becoming something altogether different, plural, singular, new. Please visit www.newliteraryhistory.com for more information. |
| forgotten atrocities bal k gupta: Remembering Partition Gyanendra Pandey, 2001 Through an investigation of the violence that marked the partition of British India in 1947, this book analyses questions of history and memory, the nationalisation of populations and their pasts, and the ways in which violent events are remembered (or forgotten) in order to ensure the unity of the collective subject - community or nation. Stressing the continuous entanglement of event and interpretation , the author emphasises both the enormity of the violence of 1947 and its shifting meanings and contours. The book provides a sustained critique of the procedures of history-writing and nationalist myth-making on the question of violence, and examines how local forms of sociality are constituted and reconstituted, by the experience and representation of violent events. It concludes with a comment on the different kinds of political community that may still be imagined even in the wake of Partition and events like it. |
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Jul 2, 2021 · Maggie's Restaurant. This long gone but not forgotten establishment does not qualify for a "club" but it certainly was an "after clubbing" hot spot. Especially since Fizz was next …
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Mar 1, 2011 · There were 3 Good Ol Days restaurants in Atlanta in the '80's... Downtown off Peachtree, Buckhead (with outdoor patio) on Peachtree just south of West Paces Ferry and …
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Jul 5, 2015 · Gone but not forgotten I was going crazy trying to think of the name of the Itallian Gardens on 38th Street, back in the day. I remember eating there before my senior prom back …
"Gone but not Forgotten in Augusta" (Washington: cinema, …
Sep 9, 2009 · I would really like for someone to post memories of old froholler neighborhood. I grew up there, but since then, it was just forgotten. I would really love to see some old …
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Jan 20, 2010 · Originally Posted by jayster1955 does anyone know the name of the monster wooden structure restaurant that was up on the hill overlooking 285 and the
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